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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  JFC, everything is an argument with him. He said in his original post, "I can't help but wonder how other parents have been replying to their kids..." Then a parent answers the question and he has a temper tantrum, and of course crows about all the "learning" he's done

  He only wants feedback when it is at or near 100% in line with what his viewpoint is. The Patterson thread is a great example of that.

  He’s irritated because he knows the commenter is correct about Croatia under the Ustase. He can’t stand to be “schooled” even while he does it regularly to everyone else. He wanted the focus to be on Hungary, Italy and comparing their present governments to the Third Reich. Always sees himself as the most brilliant person in the room and now that he’s on meds and his business has hit the skids based solely on HIS actions AFTER Kim’s revelations, he’s at a bit of a crisis point reconciling what he feels about his level of intelligence with real life consequences stemming directly from his stupidity.

  At this point hardly anyone is listening to him. His comment about the IICSA inquiry still only has 12 likes and subsequent tweets about it have about 13 - 18 likes at most.

  He’s lost all credibility on the issue and what’s more, his voice is no longer viewed as anything important. He’s quickly becoming more irrelevant by the day. His patrons are at 445, 6 up from his low of 439, and with the monthly drop little over a week away, this is a problem he should realise is not going away.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  On the flipside, if the report had been perfect, he would be crowing about his time as a participant or commentator or whatever he was. His playbook is so predictable at this point.

  Exactly. He was a “Core Participant”. He also knows this is his last hurrah regarding being involved with anything like this ever again. So especially going forward he’s going to be as critical of IICSA as he can because he has nothing to lose. He’ll also compare any future participants negatively compared to his own record, saying they didn’t push as hard as he did. He’ll make an attempt to be involved but when he’s rejected he’ll be quick to point the finger and claim that activism has suffered without his input.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  For context, here’s his former best friend Javier Ortiz on the same tweet by Richard Scorer:

  
  

  He essentially shares the same viewpoint as Lloyd does about it not being enough but notice his generally positive attitude toward it. He’s not accusing IICSA of being a part of the CSA problem which is sensational and counter-productive.

  Also: Nowhere on Lloyd’s tweet does he thank the participants of whom he is one. Javier does, as many other CSA victims have. He thinks being a sick to IICSA is really the way to go here.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Hells bells, looks like IICSA continues to be a “part of the problem”. But he’s not a part of the problem and if you say otherwise you might get sued.

  
  
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  Anonymous Message to Watchtower

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  http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

  hello citizens of the world.

  we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  I don't disagree with the NSPCC report. It's just talking about something almost completely different than what is being proposed. It's a shame you can't see that. I wonder why you can't.

  Textbook gaslighting, also page 11.
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  Anonymous Message to Watchtower

  by jwleaks in

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  http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

  hello citizens of the world.

  we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  I won't be around for much longer, so anyone want to get any last minute jabs or insults in while I'm here??
  Cedars

  Yes "cedars", I am late to the party and would like to get a few in. I called you Jabba the Hutt several times on another thread, so please do indulge me and go read that thread.

  "Thanks for your help."
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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  I suggested it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  My question is if anyone thinks there is a way to help people share their story without having to be called the next Lloyd?

  WallyB:

  Lloyd Evans is a sick and damaged individual. Tom JWFairyTale on the last Magnificent 7 livestream made a poignant point. For about 10 years now, Lloyd has managed to create a Kingdom Hall environment in this community where people are censoring themselves in order to comply with Lloyd's groupthink. As a result, he has indoctrinated an entire generation of exiting exJWs with his mindset the same way Rutherford did with the JWs. I know you know all this, but it's worth remembering.

  You're going to have to learn to deal with comments like these. Address them once but don't get drawn into any back-and-forth arguments. Lloyd has done so much damage to the exJW psyche that he's now our own Godwin's Law. They were way off the mark to ever bring that man's name into this when commenting on your video.

  Keep your own standard of ethics and a good idea might be to post them on your channel. Something like:

  All interviewees have been briefed on the following ethical code on my channel:

  • They are here out of their own free will. I have not pressured them into appearing, and in fact I have expressed to them that they can do this anonymously via chat, email, phone, or not at all.
  • Interview subjects have the right to ask me to take down their interview upon demand. I will comply, no questions asked.
  • I reserve the right to remove comments which are abusive towards the interview subject or ask inappropriate questions
  • The interviewee has been advised that they have the right to be compensated based on the amount which was monetised from the video. Some desire this, others do not.
  • I reserve the right to not post the interview if I think it has been exploitative in any way.
  • I encourage all who think this interview is exploitative or otherwise inappropriate to get in touch with me via DM to state their concerns. I promise to address them in a courteous fashion and make any corrections if needed. Due to the sensitive nature of these interviews, I ask that this be done in private out of respect to the victims.
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  were those emails that he claimed that came from the Conti's really from them or not?

  I believe they were genuine. It's within his scope of behaviour that he would msg them to claim all this distress and try to draw a parallel with their ongoing struggles with depression. I seriously doubt Kathleen Conti was monitoring that thread as it really wasn't about them personally, just a bizarre blog he wrote that claimed Conti could end up owning the Patterson facility. If I am remembering correctly, they eventually got their settlement reduced upon appeal and it was nowhere near the value of Patterson. Shame on him for feeding them false and sensational information that misled them into thinking they'd own that place. It was so manipulative.

  His constant mentioning of his wife and the DISTRESS she was under because anonymous posters on JWN were picking apart his silly Patterson article was pathetic. Had he had any kids by then, they'd have been brought to the forefront as well. It's just sick that he continues to drag them down into his cycles of depression caused by him not getting the final word on everything.

  It's interesting how many posters on the old thread jumped to defend what was already, even back then, some pretty manipulative and weird behaviour

  And this continued right up to the time of the livestream. Go back to Mike and Kim's OP on this thread and see how many thumbs down their comments got. Even comments which reiterated what Kim Silvio stated were voted down. Many people should be ashamed of themselves for continuing to support a toxic individual even after the JW Watch Head of Operations blew the whistle at him. Even his Patrons spiked by 10-15 in the period between Kim's statement and the livestream.

  I know where I stood. It didn't take a statement from his right hand and his disastrous livestream to clue me in on who Lloyd Evans was.
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  I call bullshit on that conversation ever happening.

  It sounded very contrived. But the point of the tweet was at the bottom regarding "far right populism". Like many of his fellow obese, filthy neckbeards who have to pay for sex, Lloyd retreats to Twitter to obsess over political issues to endear himself with women in a lame attempt to get some ass.

  The movie was probably on, he saw the swastika flag and since he has no social life other than karaoke night, his thoughts turned to finding a creative way to virtue signal on social media. The electoral victories of Giorgia Meloni in Italy, Viktor Orbán in Hungary, and with him being in nearby Croatia, he saw a window of opportunity.

  Oh and his daughter happened to be bored out of her mind on the sofa, noticing how silly Daddy gets the more he consumes those "special" gummy sweets he forbids her to have.

  As he often does, he involves his family in his tweets, creating this caring father persona in order to emotionally manipulate the viewer. Instead of two candidates with differing viewpoints from him winning elections in other countries, he makes it into a "far-right" issue and lamely quips something to the effect of "oh how on this earth am I ever going to explain to my daughters how we have learnt nothing since the fall of the Third Reich!"

  He's going to fall out with his daughters when they become of age in no small part due to his insisting on whoever they befriend and especially who they get into a relationship with having the same viewpoints as himself. Take a look at the religious demographics of Croatia and you'll see what I mean. 87.4% of Croatians identify as Christians and this is an extremely high rate for 21st century Europe.

  Chances are high his daughters will marry into a Christian family. And if their partner supports a political party he doesn't like, well you can see where this is going.

  All the Evans girls need to do is find someone who doesn't see prostitutes as a normal way of releasing their sexual frustrations. Also, it's an added bonus if can land a man who can see their genitalia without their belly blocking the view.

  If that happens, they will already have married better than Mummy.